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PS
Prabhupada: Klisyamananam. It is a very important
word. Everyone is suffering here. What the scientists can
do that? Future. That's all. Bluff. But everyone is
suffering here. That is the word. Bhave 'smin
klisyamananam, avidya... (SB 1-8-35)
Devotee: Kama...
Prabhupada: Kama-karmabhih. Avidya-kama-karmabhih.
They are creating a situation of suffering by unnecessary
desire. That's all. So your scientific
improvement means you are creating a situation of
suffering. That's all. No improvement. You cannot.
Kama-karmabhih, kama-karmabhih. They are working in such a
way... Bhaktivinoda Thakura also says the same thing:
anitya samsare moha janamiya jibake karaye gadha. The
so-called scientific improvement means he's already an
ass, and he's becoming more, better ass. That's all.
Nothing more. He's already an ass because he's part and
parcel of Krsna, and he has come to this material world to
enjoy. That is ass mentality. There is no enjoyment. So
he's already an ass. And this scientific improvement means
he's becoming more attached to this material world to
remain better ass.
Avidya... anitya samsare, anitya. He cannot stay here.
Suppose, working very hard like an ass, he gets a
skyscraper building, throughout his whole life, laboring.
But he cannot stay there. He'll be kicked out. Is it not
ass? Is he not an ass? He cannot stay there. Anitya
samsare. Anitya. Because it is not the permanent
settlement. You are trying: dum dum. (sound imitation)
Very strong foundation. That's all right. But your
foundation is nothing. You'll be kicked out. Therefore
he's an ass. That: "I'll stay here for twenty years." Why
dum dum dum, foundation stone? Where is your foundation?
Therefore he's an ass.
Svarupa Damodara: Anitya is temporary, Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Yes, anitya means temporary. You cannot
stay here. That they do not understand. They're making
research, making research. And if we ask them: "What you
are doing?" "For the next generation, future." And what
about your, your...? You're going to be a tree next life.
What you'll do
with your next generation? But he's ass. He does not know.
He s going to
stand before that skyscraper building, a tree, for ten
thousand years, and
he's making: dum dum dum. Therefore he's an ass. He does
not know where he's
going. And he's making provision for the next generation.
What is the next
generation? If there is no petrol, what you'll do, next
generation? And how
the next generation will help you? You are going to be a
dog, cat or tree.
So next generation, how he'll help you? Jibake karaye
gadha. Therefore he's
an ass. He does not know his personal interest. And making
research work.
What research work? Simply srama eva hi kevalam [SB
1.2.8]. Simply laboring,
what is called? Labor of love? Or what is that?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: Therefore Bhagavata says: bhave 'smin
klisyamananam avidya
kama-karmabhih. Avidya. Avidya means ass, no intelligence.
He does not know
what is life, what is the course of life, how things are
going on. He does
not know. The more he is increasing his unnecessary
desires, he's making
himself entangled. That he does not know. He has to take
freedom from the
repetition of birth and death, but he's becoming more and
more entangled.
Avidya kama-karmabhih. This is Bhagavata. In one line, the
whole material
existence explained. This is literature. In one line,
there is thousands
years research work. In one line. Bhave 'smin. Now this
bhave 'smin, you
make research. Asmin, in this world, taking birth. So you
have to learn so
many things on these two words. How the living entities
are taking birth in
this world. Wherefrom he's coming, where he's going. What
is his business.
So many things in these two words. Bhave 'smin.
Klisyamananam. Struggle for
existence. Why? Avidya. Ignorance. What is that avidya?
Kama-karmabhih.
Brahmananda: Desire.
Prabhupada: Activities of sense gratification. He's
becoming entangled.
Svarupa Damodara: So the modern scientific research means
to increase the
demands of the body, the bodily demands.
Prabhupada: Yes, what they can do? Because they're rascal,
foolish, just
like children, they'll simply make their body dirty.
That's all. He does not
know anything. If you bring a small children, what they
will do? They'll
take this... You see. he does not know anything. He's a
rascal. Similarly
you scientists, you are all rascals. You do not know
anything. Punah punas
carvita-carvananam [SB 7.5.30], chewing the chewed, making
research. What
research you can do? You do not know anything. What
research you can do? And
Vedic injunction is: yasmin vijnate sarvam evam vijnatam
bhavati (Mundaka
Upanisad 1.3). If you know the Absolute Truth, then all
other things becom
known. But you do not know what is Absolute Truth.
Therefore you are in
ignorance. If you know one thing, then you... Just like
you are talking.
We are not official scientists or philosopher or anything.
But why you are
challenging, you are talking so boldly? Because we know
one thing, Krsna.
Therefore we can say so boldly and challenge anyone. I'm
not a D.A.C. like
you. How I can challenge you? I'm challenging you. How?
Because I know
Krsna. That's all. That is the statement of Veda. Yasmin
vijnate sarvam evam
vijnatam bhavati. If you know Krsna, the Absolute Truth,
then all other
things will be known automatically. It is such a thing. We
are preaching
Krsna consciousness, challenging all kinds of men in the
society, so many
scientists are coming, so many psychologists coming. So
how we are confident
to talk with him? Because we have learned little about
Krsna. That's all. Is
it not? You are a qualified scientist. Why I challenge
you? Not that because
you are my disciple, you are accepting all my challenges.
You have got your
reasons. You are not a fool. So how it is possible?
Practically, how it is
possible? Because we are trying to know little about Krsna.
That's all.
Therefore this Vedic injunction, yasmin vijnate sarvam
evam vijnatam
bhavati, yam labdhva caparam labham manyate nadhikam tatah.
These statements
are there. If you get Krsna, then you will not hanker
after any more profit.
Bas. All profit is there. Yam labdhva caparam labham. If
you get Krsna, then
all other kinds of profit, you'll not hanker after. And
what kind of profit
this is? Yasmin sthito na duhkhena gurunapi vicalyate [Bg.
6.20-23]. If one
is situated in Krsna consciousness, in the greatest
calamity of this world,
he'll not be disturbed. This is the greatest profit.
Just like Prahlada Maharaja. A big giant, Hiranyakasipu,
is putting him
always in difficulty, but he's confident: "Yes, there is
Krsna." A five
years old boy. He's not at all disturbed. Father is giving
poison. "All
right, give me poison." And throwing him from the hill on
down. But he is
steady. How it is possible? Na duhkhena gurunapi vicalyate.
Guru. Guru means
heavy, very heavy difficulties. But na vicalyate. He's not
perturbed, not
disturbed. How it is possible? It is such a thing, that if
you know Krsna,
you know everything. If you are in Krsna consciousness,
then you are not
disturbed in the heaviest type of calamity. So these
things should be given
to the human society. One thing. That will make his life
perfect. Is it not?
Morning Walk -- April 28, 1973, Los Angeles
*PPS*
yasmat priyapriya-viyoga-samyoga-janma-
sokagnina sakala-yonisu dahyamanah
duhkhausadham tad api duhkham atad-dhiyaham
bhuman bhramami vada me tava dasya-yogam
SYNONYMS
yasmat -- because of which (because of existing in the
material world);
priya -- pleasing;
apriya -- not pleasing;
viyoga -- by separation;
samyoga -- and combination;
janma -- whose birth;
soka-agnina --
by the fire of
lamentation;
sakala-yonisu -- in any type of body;
dahyamanah -- being
burned;
duhkha-ausadham -- remedial measures for miserable
life;
tat --
that;
api -- also;
duhkham -- suffering;
a-tat-dhiya -- by
accepting the
body as the self;
aham -- I;
bhuman -- O great one;
bhramami -- am wandering
(within the cycle of birth and death);
vada -- kindly
instruct;
me -- unto
me;
tava -- Your;
dasya-yogam -- activities of service.
TRANSLATION
O great one, O Supreme Lord, because of combination with
pleasing and
displeasing circumstances and because of separation from
them, one is placed
in a most regrettable position, within heavenly or hellish
planets, as if
burning in a fire of lamentation. Although there are many
remedies by which
to get out of miserable life, any such remedies in the
material world are
more miserable than the miseries themselves. Therefore I
think that the only
remedy is to engage in Your service. Kindly instruct me in
such service.
PURPORT
Prahlada Maharaja aspired to engage in the service of the
lotus feet of the
Lord. After the death of his father, who was materially
very opulent,
Prahlada would have inherited his father's property, which
extended
throughout the world, but Prahlada Maharaja was not
inclined to accept such
material opulence, for whether one is in the heavenly or
hellish planets or
is a rich or a poor man's son, material conditions are
everywhere. Therefore
no condition of life is at all pleasing. If one wants the
uncontaminated
pleasure of blissful life, he must engage himself in the
transcendental
loving service of the Lord. Material opulence may be
somewhat pleasing for
the time being, but to come to that temporary pleasing
condition one must
work extremely hard. When a poor man is rich he may be
better situated, but
to come to that position he had to accept many miseries.
The fact is that in
material life, whether one is miserable or happy, both
conditions are
miserable. If one actually wants happy, blissful life, one
must become Krsna
conscious and constantly engage in the transcendental
loving service of the
Lord. That is the real remedy. The entire world is under
the illusion that
people will be happy by advancing in materialistic
measures to counteract
the miseries of conditional life, but this attempt will
never be successful.
Humanity must be trained to engage in the transcendental
loving service of
the Lord. That is the purpose of the Krsna consciousness
movement. There can
be no happiness in changing one's material conditions, for
everywhere there
is trouble and misery. SB 7.9.18
Your well-wishing
amit alok, patna
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